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New Line Cinema Interview between Philip Pullman and Donna

From Beliefnet.com:

A month before its theatrical release, "The Golden Compass"--the movie from the first book in Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" trilogy--is sparking controversy because of what many Christians see as its message of atheism.Here on Idol Chatter, blogger Donna Freitas, author of a book on Pullman's theology, has been relentlessly defending Pullman, arguing that critics of "The Golden Compass" and its sequels are missing what she calls a "stunning retelling of salvation" that is at the trilogy's deeply spiritual core. Last week, Donna was invited by New Line Cinema, producer of the movie (opening Dec. 6), to interview Pullman about God, his agenda in writing the books, and the criticism he's faced. Watch exclusive excerpts from their discussion, courtesy of New Line Cinema.

MTV.com on Golden Compass & Christians


From MTV.com:

'Golden Compass' Film Angering Christian Groups -- Even With Its Religious Themes Watered Down

Catholic League worries that movie will encourage parents to buy the 'anti-Christian' books for their kids.

Thought Harry Potter was blasphemous? That was kids' stuff compared to the "His Dark Materials" trilogy, in which God is an imposter, angels are sexually ambiguous and the Church kidnaps, tortures and assassinates to achieve its goals, one of which is stealing children's souls.

But try as the filmmakers might to take religion out of the equation in the first installment — "The Golden Compass," due December 7 — Christian groups are gearing up to protest and fans are urging New Line not to water down the provocative material in remaining films.

The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, which most recently protested a picture of Britney Spears sitting provocatively in a priest's lap — the image appears in her new album, Blackout — takes this issue a little more seriously. The anti-defamation group accuses the film of "selling atheism to kids" and has produced its own booklet in response, "The Golden Compass: Agenda Unmasked," which it's been distributing to churches and other Christian groups.

The evangelical-activist group Focus on the Family, which plans to release a statement about the film early next week, says it's in agreement with Christian leaders and organizations on the issue. Adam Holz, associate editor of Focus on the Family's Plugged In magazine, told MTV News he fears the movie would "plant seeds" to "ultimately encourage some fans to reject God."

Also, Snopes.com, which typically debunks urban legends, claims that the assertion that the film has "anti-religious" themes is "true." (Kansas State literature professor Philip Nel posted an open letter in refute, saying it would be more accurate to call it "a matter of debate.")

Ironically, this debate was exactly what New Line was trying to avoid by softening the religious references in "The Golden Compass." (Whether religion would reappear in "The Subtle Knife" or "The Amber Spyglass," producer Bob Shea told MTV News that plans weren't firm yet: "One film at a time!") So in "Compass," the revisionist Church is simply referred to as the "Magisterium," because the focus is the power of the agency, not the agency itself.

"Religion is at its best when it's far from power," author Philip Pullman said during his Times Talks appearance Tuesday. "When a religion gains power, it goes bad."

"The Church is a symbol of oppression in the books," HisDarkMaterials.org webmaster Ryan den Rooijen said, "and they've retained that essence. Even if they don't name it as the Church, it's not a terrible loss. The story is still retained."

"We'll have to deal [with God and the angels] when we get to the next bit," said "Golden Compass" director Chris Weitz. "I don't think anyone here sees it as a particularly [controversial] series of films that we're making."

"Much has already been made of the fact that New Line Cinema and this film's creators have tried to downplay any anti-church and anti-Christian bias the books it is based on may contain," Focus on the Family's Holz said. "But that bias is there."

"This is the least offensive of the three, and they're watering down the most despicable elements, so why the protest? Not because it's going to be so shocking," Catholic League President Bill Donohue said. "The protest is this: It's being done at Christmastime, and when parents don't find the film troubling, they're going to buy the books for their kids as Christmas gifts. They're doing it through the back door, in a stealth fashion, because each book becomes more provocative, more aggressive and more anti-Christian. I've never seen anything quite like this before, to use a movie like this."

"We'll obviously be happy if they led more kids to read the books," Weitz said, "because they're wonderful books. We should be so lucky. Most readers see this as a story of a young girl fighting the odds, and the intellectual content is a bit of a bonus."

Defenders of Pullman's works — who range from liberal Christians to religious scholars to readers of the books — counter that the Gnostic and Nietzschean ponderings in the series shouldn't make conservative Christians fear that their kids will be "seduced" into atheism. Calling the online chatter "fearful to the point of hysterical," Boston University religion professor Donna Freitas argues on BeliefNet.com that the challenges to traditional images of God should be welcomed, not protested, as part of a "lively dialogue about faith."

Though independent Christian groups may be opposed, not everyone in the Church is upset about that dialogue. Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Rowan Williams has even proposed that "His Dark Materials" be taught as part of religious education in schools.

"I found that to be one of the most provocative elements, the religious overtones, aspects, ramifications of the thing," said actor Sam Elliott, who plays Lee Scoresby in "The Golden Compass." "It's thought-provoking, is all. It's good material, good stuff. But why not deal with it? That's how I feel. It's provocative material, and deal with it as such."

"I really hope that they keep the religious subtext," said 16-year-old "His Dark Materials" fan Zoe Maltby. "If they cut it out, it makes it more like a summer blockbuster, and it's so much more than that."

L.A. Times on Pullman

From L.A. Times:

Tests of faith over 'Compass'

In adapting Philip Pullman's novel, New Line is in a tight spot between the book's true-believer following and those who find it anti-religious.

Does this scenario sound familiar? Movie studio bets the house on a beloved epic fantasy trilogy, filling fans of the novels with as much breathless anticipation as dread.

The studio is the same: New Line Cinema. But adapting "The Golden Compass" -- the first in Philip Pullman's complex and heady series "His Dark Materials" -- is far trickier a gamble than "The Lord of the Rings." This time around, New Line's grappling with a story that many perceive as anti-religious, written by an outspoken atheist who merges fairy tale characters with Christian theology, quantum physics and Nietzschean pondering. And it has entrusted the $180-million, special effects-heavy production to Chris Weitz, a director best known for his romantic comedies.

All this leaves New Line in a precarious spot, trying to please fans who relish Pullman's philosophical and theological puzzles without alienating the very bankable Christian masses.

Predictably, the film, opening Dec. 7, already has raised the ire of one outspoken conservative, Catholic League President William Donahue. Earlier this month, he called on Christians to boycott the movie because it will "seduce" parents into buying Pullman's "pro-atheist" book. Thus far, Donahue's blanket mailing to media and other religious groups of his exhaustive 30-page brochure titled "The Golden Compass: Agenda Unmasked" seems to have done little more than help promote the film.

Of course, all that hubbub about Harry Potter promoting witchcraft to kids didn't stop that franchise from becoming the highest-grossing film series of all time. But Donahue's protest got the attention of James Dobson's evangelical Christian behemoth Focus on the Family, the moral activists who review films and books for an audience of 5 million -- though even that group's protests of Fox Searchlight's 2004 film on pioneering sex researcher "Kinsey" and the TV cartoon "SpongeBob Squarepants" didn't significantly affect viewership of either. That group expects to take a stand on the film and the trilogy next month.

Pullman fans, meanwhile, seem to be conflicted about Hollywood's take on the series. Around the same time that Donahue piped up this month, Weitz prompted anguished cries from fans with his announcement that the script (which he is adapting) would not include the book's last three cliffhanger chapters. Instead, those will be pushed into the sequel "The Subtle Knife," a film the studio has yet to confirm. One despairing fan vowed not to see the film and declared on fansite HisDarkMaterials.org that the change marked "the death of Golden Compass (the movie)."

A few days later, Britain's National Secular Society, of which Pullman is an honorary associate, told the U.K.'s Observer that the filmmakers were "taking the heart" out of the series by removing its "anti-religious elements."

Weitz has kept fans apprised of the reasoning behind his decisions and Pullman has consistently chimed his enthusiasm for the production, the casting and the script. Indeed, Pullman has helped write a number of scenes for the film and has always wanted Nicole Kidman in the role of Mrs. Coulter, an evil beauty with bewitching charm.

"I'm very happy with the work the filmmakers have done," he wrote in an Oct. 11 post on his website. "And no one wants this film to succeed more, or believes in it more firmly, than I do."

As for the debate over the film's handling of the book's theological themes, Weitz considers that "a bit of a tempest in a teapot."

"I believe the film is about honor and courage and loyalty and free choice and the human will and it's not really about all the issues people are really keen to slam us with," he said, calling from the famed Abbey Road recording studio in London where he was completing the film's music. "It's coming from people who are unwilling to read the books with an open mind."



Parallel universe

THE "Golden Compass" movie is set in a parallel universe similar to Oxford, England, where everyone's soul is physically manifested as a "daemon" or talking animal counselor. Witch clans patrol from the skies and warrior polar bears do battle. The malevolent governing body "the Magisterium" -- also referenced in the book as "the Church" -- is racing to decipher the true nature of the mystical particles known as "Dust" by kidnapping children and cutting away the invisible thread that bonds them to their daemons, which, in essence, removes their souls. Lyra Belacqua (12-year-old newcomer Dakota Blue Richards), a canny urchin raised by scholars, is thrust into the drama when her best friend is snatched.

But to rescue him, Lyra must outwit Kidman's Mrs. Coulter as well as her ex-lover, the mysterious Lord Asriel, played by Daniel Craig, and survive all nature of mythological adversaries along the way.

"The Golden Compass" was first published in the U.K. by Scholastic in 1995 as "Northern Lights," and the book was selected by judges of the Carnegie Medal as one of the 10 most important children's novels of the past 70 years. "The Subtle Knife" was published in 1997, followed in 2000 by "The Amber Spyglass." New Line bought the film rights to the series in 2002.

Pullman fans rival those of J.R.R. Tolkien and J.K. Rowling in their fervor. During the three years it has taken to bring "The Golden Compass" to the screen, they crafted homemade fan films to satisfy their yearning. On websites such as His DarkMaterials.org and BridgetotheStars .net, they track every slight deviation the screenplay makes from the novel. Some still bemoan that Kidman's Mrs. Coulter has blond hair, not black as the character had in the book.

Pullman himself has long denied that his books are anti-Catholic. He was unavailable to comment, the studio said, because of scheduling conflicts. But in a 2004 post still featured on his website Philip-Pullman.com, he wrote that his main quarrel is with the "literalist, fundamentalist nature of absolute power" and "those who pervert and misuse religion, or any other kind of doctrine with a holy book and a priesthood and an apparatus of power that wields unchallengeable authority, in order to dominate and suppress human freedoms."

Still, fans energetically debate Pullman's intent. Some consider his trilogy a cutting-edge work of Christian theology.

Pullman's refutations aside, Catholic theology in the books is depicted as sinister and the villains are often cardinals and priests. The "Church," or the "Magisterium," answers to the "Vatican Council," and kidnaps children, tortures witches and aims to suppress all natural impulses and control the world. In one book, "Dust" is described as the physical manifestation of Original Sin.

In the film, however, there's no mention of the Church or Catholicism. The bad guys are known only as the Magisterium, which in fact is the term the Roman Catholic Church uses to describe its body charged with interpreting "the Word of God." Weitz, who described himself on one fan site as "a lapsed Catholic crypto-Buddhist," explained those changes to fans in 2004 as a way to allay the studio's early concern that the "perceived anti-religiosity" of "His Dark Materials" would make the franchise "an unviable project."

Kidman, who was raised Catholic, spoke up in defense of the film, telling Entertainment Weekly last summer "the Catholic Church is part of my essence. I wouldn't be able to do this film if I thought it were at all anti-Catholic." Weitz said she has already tentatively signed on to star in the sequel "The Subtle Knife" should there be one. Though the studio won't commit to a second or third film before "Compass" proves to be a box office success, screenwriter Hossein Amini was hired early this year to adapt "The Subtle Knife."

Weitz has called "The Golden Compass" "the most important work of my life." It's by far the largest and most expensive. The film includes 1,100 special effects shots created by half a dozen or so effects houses. Weitz is best known for the comedies "American Pie" and "About a Boy"; his most expensive film was 2001's "Down to Earth," with a budget of $35 million.

In fact, Weitz famously had such early qualms about the project's enormity he quit the production in late 2004 and returned only after the studio fired his replacement, director Anand Tucker.



Making a point

NEW LINE executives would not directly address the Catholic League's protest or the film's handling of religious themes. Chris Carlisle, the studio's president of theatrical marketing, said in a statement only that the film "is an exciting fantasy adventure film that we believe families will enjoy."

But the studio made its point in other ways. One studio spokeswoman pointed to an Oct. 16 article in Wales' Western Mail newspaper in which Pullman complained that "this must be the only film attacked in the same week for being too religious and for being anti-religious -- and by people who haven't seen it."

"Golden Compass" producer Kyle Good helped further the conversation without actually granting an interview. Good wrangled author Donna Freitas, an assistant professor of religion at Boston University who, with Jason King, co-wrote "Killing the Impostor God: Philip Pullman's Spiritual Imagination in His Dark Materials," published last month. (Freitas said she wasn't helping market the film, but her book "serendipitously" addressed many of the issues raised by the League's protest, so she obliged the studio's request that she speak with The Times.)

"This is a thrilling, cutting-edge work of Christian theology," said Freitas, who is Catholic. "What's distressing about [League President] Bill Donahue's message is he's talking about 'His Dark Materials' as if it's this atheist manifesto geared at children. He's forgetting this is a wonderful literary fantasy for children. It's a story first."

That may be true for books, but movie adaptations are often on a different page. Riding on the coattails of this fancy yarn are hundreds of millions of dollars, more than a few careers and the loyalties of an army of fans. But if New Line gets this one right, look out Harry, little Lyra's going to give you a run for your money.

Publishers Weekly on "Killing the Imposter God"

From Publishers Weekly:

Freitas and King believe that Philip Pullman—whom the New Yorker called one of England's most outspoken atheists—is a theologian in spite of himself, and that Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy is a religious classic on the order of the Chronicles of Narnia. Here, the authors attempt to show that the Pullman novels are not about killing off God, but rather, annihilating an understanding of God that is antiquated and unimaginative. Analyzing lengthy scenes from the novels, they find Pullman's views pantheistic, rather than atheistic. Pullman resurrects a far more sophisticated divinity and wrestles mightily with theological questions. Freitas and King explore Pullman's beliefs about God, good and evil, and salvation, seeing the novelist as squarely situated within liberation theology and surprisingly Greek, indebted nearly as much to Socrates and Plato as to God the Father and God the Son. Freitas (Becoming a Goddess of Inner Poise) and King clearly know their material and have the requisite passion for their topic. Although this is not light reading, the book release's timing to coincide with the motion picture, His Dark Materials: The Golden Compass, should give it higher visibility to a popular audience.

"Authors Weigh In as Pullman Movie Nears Release" (Publishers Weekly)

From Publishers Weekly:


Though the bestselling English fantasy trilogy His Dark Materials might seem to invite comparison to a certain multipart saga about an English boy wizard, fans say the books and author Philip Pullman are in a league all their own. For one thing, Pullman's novels explore some big-league ideas about God.

Two new books, Killing the Imposter God: Philip Pullman's Spiritual Imagination in His Dark Materials by Donna Freitas and Jason King (Jossey-Bass, Sept.) and Shedding Light on His Dark Materials: Exploring Hidden Spiritual Themes in Philip Pullman's Popular Series by Kurt Bruner and Jim Ware (Tyndale/Salt River, Sept.), excavate these spiritual themes in Pullman's work as the movie version of The Golden Compass, the first book of the series, awaits a Dec. 7 world premiere.

"I think Pullman is a scholar's dream," said Freitas, a visiting assistant professor of religion at Boston University and PW contributor. "I couldn't not see the divine in the trilogy." Pullman is a self-professed atheist, and it shows. Freitas and King see Pullman's criticisms of the institutional church as consistent with contemporary feminist and liberation theologies. "This trilogy is a monument to these edgy theologians who operate on the margins," said Freitas, who calls herself an unabashed fan of the series.

But authors Bruner and Ware—"devout Christians," in the words of Bruner, a Texas pastor—approach from a different angle, acknowledging Pullman's storytelling prowess while attempting to correct what they think an atheist has got wrong. In their view, Pullman pays backhanded tribute to the tradition with which he has a mighty quarrel.

"I see him paying homage to a lot of Christian truths and values," said Ware, a writer for the Christian organization Focus on the Family. The authors wanted to be sure not to condemn Pullman outright. "I don't think that's an intelligent way to approach a subject like this," said Ware. The two, who have also written guides to Christian themes in C.S. Lewis's Narnia series and Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, think Pullman is too good a writer and too attractive an influence not to take him seriously. So they see themselves answering his criticisms of organized religion.

"It was an interesting tightrope," said Bruner, who is a pastor of spiritual formation. "I hope readers will see that even that which seeks to attack Christianity can't help but borrow from its tenets and narrative." The two books follow last year's Dark Matter: Shedding Light on Philip Pullman's Trilogy His Dark Materials by Tony Watkins (InterVarsity Press, 2006).

Publishers Weekly on "Becoming A Goddess of Inner Poise"

Publishers Weekly says of Becoming a Goddess of Inner Poise:

For the increasing base of 20- and 30-somethings (particularly of the single variety) who have forged their circle of friends into substitute families, created social events of television series finales and count fictional characters among their role models, here is the perfect book on spirituality. Donna Freitas, a professor of spirituality, has, like an increasing number of the new crop of Ph.D.s, found a way to legitimize our pervasive pop culture. For years, Madonna has been the subject of college classes and the Simpsons have had a recent spate of publishing attention--why not Bridget? Freitas?s impressive collection of resources includes everyone from St. Augustine (Confessions) to Dorothee Soelle (Thinking About God), Grace Jantzen (Becoming Divine) to Peter Brown (The Body and Society). Directed at a generation of women born of women who marched in the streets in a desperate escape from their June Cleaveresque mothers, she emphasizes that the "challenge today is to anchor our personal journeys toward Inner Poise within the communities that already surround us, exploring the spiritual possibility in the rituals we already practice and the spiritual leaders we already are." Throughout, Freitas delights with her Bridget-inspired voice while seamlessly showing her prowess as a student and teacher of spirituality.

Horizons On "Save the Date"

Scholar William P. Roberts (University of Dayton) in the journal Horizons said the following about Save the Date:

Many of us who teach college level marriage courses are finding fewer of our students have immediate plans for marriage, but most of them are in various stages of dating, ranging from the casual and exploratory to the quite serious. Hence, while the focus of our courses continues to be the personalist and theological significance of marriage, more stress is placed on the implications that this meaning has for the dynamics of a dating situation....After showing how dating is treated in TV programs and in the movies, the authors explain how dating can strengthen one's spiritual life. Among the other topics they discuss are their views on chastity and when sex is good and when it is not. Also, of notable interest, are the insights the book gives on being a "born-again virgin," the difference between infatuation and love, and the pain and growth that can be involved in breaking up. This book is a worthwhile read for those teaching courses on marriage and personal relationships, as well as for those counsel college students, whether formally or informally...it [will] provide interesting and informative supplementary reading as well as serve as a source of enlivened discussion.